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Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:20:00 -
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I have a question on this topic.
Is there any need for pimped logistics? Would that be appreciated in any way? Basically the only thing to pimp out is the tank, and from what I know, the need for pimp on basis is rather non-existent (apart from a T2 rig to get the PG for 5/1 iirc). How about it, and the other logistic ships?
As an example, the only decently pimped logistic I've found so far: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/63791-Genolution-Incursion-Basilisk.html |
Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.10 00:16:00 -
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Golem is crap for Pve at the moment, and will remain crap with the proposed changes. While the changes make some sense, it wont make the Golem better than it is now.
You don't even need to test it. It doesn't offer any significant advantage over cnr, sni or the Tyfi. It's just slow, got no drones ,it takes ageeeees to lock and the dmg application doesnt do that good compared to the cnr. Buffer is lolololz so you cant pimp it reasonable either without beeing a pinata.
Some might argue that E-war immunity and increased projection-range is worth all those nerfs - I say they aren't. E-war isn't a problem in a CNR, SNI or a TyFi, as faction ships got huge sensor strength allready. Even the infamous Assault gets you jammed maybe twice.
Golem needs some serious tweaking towards a usefull role, or more general changes to missiles to be worth it (talking about TD affecting missiles/ more mid-slot modules for damage application and projection). At the moment, other ships are crushing the golems shoes, and it has no reasoable role which isn't done better by other missile-boats at the moment.
DMG application and projection = CNR
tanking = SNI
DMG + mobility = TyFi
If we add the fact that the golem gets outdamaged because it doesn't have sentries - all other missile ships do better damage - it becomes even more obvious.
Effectively, the golem trades too much gank for needless tank. Now go check what PvE'ers usually do while fitting their ships, and you might get an Idea of what to do with them. Just add 50% more damage against NPC's and give them the goddamn freaking T2 RESISTS they deserve as T2 ships and you're fine.
It needs it's own useful place to be worth in PvE - but MJD and huge active tanking are probably the least useful bonuses within the missile-boat lineup (don't start with this "you can trade more tank for gank nowz" - **** - how many TP's shall I field? 3 isn't enough?).
So what should we do with the golem? I don't know, but I'm damn sure I won't be using this joke of a ship for PvE at all - and no, transforming a ship is no reason to fly it either (!).
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Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:20:00 -
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Jasmine Assasin wrote:Gimme more Cynos wrote:Golem is crap for Pve at the moment, and will remain crap with the proposed changes. While the changes make some sense, it wont make the Golem better than it is now.
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I tested the Golem with a maxed out shield/missile pilot on sisi (using tech II fit) and found the golem to work just fine. When the new mirror is up I'll be able to test a pimped Golem and I have no doubts it'll do even better.
Please show me PvE content where the only advantage of a marauder (hint: the oversized tank) can be useful. I can't see it. |
Gimme more Cynos
Du nervst geh sterben
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Posted - 2014.02.06 12:33:00 -
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nightmare, vindicator, machariel. Choose one. :)
you could also use a basilisk to play the logi. |
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